Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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Voyager 1 NASA announces that the Voyager 1 space probe (rendering shown) is sending readable data for the first time in five months. The HDZ-led coalition wins the most votes in the parliamentary election in Croatia but falls well short of a parliamentary majority. Ich­thy­o­titan, the largest known marine reptile, is formally described. Flooding in the Persian Gulf and Arabian Peninsula leaves more than thirty people dead. The historic Børsen in Copenhagen, Denmark, is severely damaged by a fire. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Myanmar civil war Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline War in Sudan timeline Recent deaths: Terry Anderson Cecil Williams Andrew Davis Whitey Herzog Käthe Sasso Palitha Thewarapperuma view — page history — related changes — edit

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April 24

Portal:Current events/2024 April 24

April 24, 2024 (2024-04-24) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War The United States announces a $61 billion aid package for Ukraine as part of a bill that was stalled in the US Congress for months and was recently approved. The package includes ammunition for artillery and air defense systems, along with armoured fighting vehicles. (CNN) Disasters and accidents 2024 Kenya floods Widespread flooding hits Nairobi, Kenya, with tens of thousands affected. (BBC News) Law and crime 118th United States Congress President of the United States Joe Biden signs the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act into law. (Reuters) Human rights in Colombia The Government of Colombia issues a formal apology to the indigenous communities of the Amazon basin for allowing the enslavement and systematic brutality they endured during the Amazon rubber boom in the 19th and 20th centuries. (El Espectador) AMIA bombing Argentina issues an arrest warrant via Interpol for Iranian interior minister Ahmad Vahidi in connection with the 1994 bombing of a Jewish Community Center in Buenos Aires. Vahidi is currently believed to be in Sri Lanka. (BBC News) Moldova brings criminal case against a pro-Russian Gagauzia leader, Evghenia Guțul. (Reuters) Three people are injured and one other is arrested in a stabbing at Ysgol Dyffryn Aman school in Ammanford, Wales. (ITV News) (The Guardian) Politics and elections Thousands protest in Buenos Aires against education cuts by President Javier Milei. (BBC) Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez says he is considering resigning from office after his wife is investigated for corruption. (AP)

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RD: Donald Payne Jr.

Article: Donald Payne Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Not ready yet. Being worked on. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

2024 Solomon Islands general election

Article: 2024 Solomon Islands general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Manasseh Sogavare retains his seat as Prime Minister of the Solomon Islands but his party does not claim a majority in the Parliament in the 2024 Solomon Islands general election. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
• Updated by N Panama 84534 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Good quality and well-updated. The Kip 18:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• There's usually a section after "Results" that deals with aftermath or reactions; that's as yet missing. Otherwise, this is looking good. Schwede66 21:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Gaza mass graves

Article: Gaza mass graves (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Several mass graves with hundreds of bodies have been found in Gaza. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, The Guardian, NY Times, AP News, CNN, France 24, FT, Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Ainty Painty (talk) 12:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, covered by ongoing Israel–Hamas war. Angusgtw (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as part of ongoing, hasn't changed any aspect of what's been happening there to a great degree. --Masem (t) 12:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, as tragic as it is, we can't post every human rights violation happening there or ITN would be full of them. Also, what is "Gaedgza"? Is it a variant spelling of Gaza, a spelling error, or a more specific place? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

  Striking my vote, the scale of the human rights violation makes it pretty unprecedented, and exceptions to Ongoing can and should be made. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose it is a part of the Israel/Hamas war LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 12:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Covered by ongoing. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - This human rights violation barely got any coverage by the war article, compared by how notable this is Abo Yemen✉ 14:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose To little information at this time - we don’t know when these people were killed or the circumstances of their death. It’s possible that these were buried before Israel raided the compounds. In addition, covered by ongoing. BilledMammal (talk) 14:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose/Wait more or less per BilledMammal. I'm not totally convinced this would be covered in Ongoing, but the article is missing a lot of context, particularly the "who" and the "why", which is really important when we're talking about what could be a war crime. I went "oppose/wait" because this is an item worth revisiting, but any investigation will probably take some time to complete. DarkSide830 (talk) 15:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait per DarkSide - I'm on the fence whether this supersedes the ongoing item or not, but the fog of war is still in effect around it and the article feels woefully underdeveloped. The Kip 18:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait - I would like to see more clarity about what happened before posting. Blythwood (talk) 19:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait. Two graves are yet to be exhumed, and details surrounding the burials are still being reported on. Jebiguess (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Abdul Aleem Farooqui

Article: Abdul Aleem Farooqui (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ETV Bharat, Amar Ujala
Credits:

• Nominated by Khaatir (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian Islamic scholar. Khaatir (talk) 07:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

•Support Fairly good article The AP (talk) 09:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - it's a good article and a notable person LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 12:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support there are no apparent issues with the article. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

April 23

Portal:Current events/2024 April 23

April 23, 2024 (2024-04-23) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hezbollah conflict An Israeli Air Force airstrike kills two people and injures six others in Hanine, Lebanon. (Reuters) Nasser Hospital mass graves, Nasser Hospital siege United Nations human rights chief Volker Türk calls for an international investigation after hundreds of bodies are discovered in mass graves near the Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip. (The New York Times) Business and economy The United States Federal Trade Commission votes to ban nearly all employment agreements that prevent workers from joining competing businesses. (NPR) Disasters and accidents 2024 Lumut mid-air collision Two Royal Malaysian Navy helicopters collide in mid-air during a rehearsal parade in Lumut, Malaysia, killing all ten people on board. (CNA) English Channel migrant crossings Five migrants drown while attempting to cross the English Channel and 49 others are rescued. (Reuters) At least 21 migrants die after their boat capsizes off the coast of Djibouti. (Reuters) A Douglas DC-4 crashes into the Tanana River in Alaska, United States, shortly after takeoff from Fairbanks, killing two people on board. (Anchorage Daily News) International relations International recognition of the State of Palestine, International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war Jamaica becomes the 140th UN member state to recognize the State of Palestine. (Jamaica Observer) North Korea and weapons of mass destruction North Korea claims that it tested a new command-and-control system in a simulated nuclear counterstrike. (CNN) Politics and elections Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Rishi Sunak announces that he plans to increase the United Kingdom's defence budget to 2.5% of its GDP by 2030, totaling around £85 billion. (The Guardian) (Reuters)

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RD: Frank Field, Baron Field of Birkenhead

Article: Frank Field, Baron Field of Birkenhead (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Labour minister.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Conditional support (after sourcing issues are fixed); looks comprehensive! Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, it is comprehensive. But, unfortunately, at least five paragraphs currently have no citations. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose some paragraphs do not have any sourcing. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article is fine. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Armenia–Azerbaijan border demarcation

Article: Armenia–Azerbaijan border (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Armenia and Azerbaijan begin demarcating their common border, simultaneously placing the first boundary markers as a step towards a peace agreement. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After Armenia announces handing over four abandoned villages to Azerbaijan, the two countries begin demarcating their common border, simultaneously placing the first boundary markers as a step towards a peace agreement.
News source(s): France 24 The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Armenia and Azerbaijan are working together for a peace agreement, apparently! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support – Great news and a good-looking article. I think the update to the article may be a bit minimal for a blurb. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

  I can write a bit more! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 10:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

  Added a bit more about the details of the deal, including protests in Armenia in response to territories being handed over. Sadly, it is not yet clear where the first boundary markers were placed. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 11:31, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose an important start, but this doesn't read as any formalized treaty or equivalent, only they're starting to survey what the boundary likely should be which they will then be the basis of the peace agreement. --Masem (t) 12:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• I do think this could be ITN worthy, but what would go a long way to facilitating such a nom is a page on the demarcation itself, which should be feasible given the scope of this event. Not voting either way at this current moment though. DarkSide830 (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait(?) per Darkside. ITN-worthy topic IMO, given the prior intensity and long-lasting nature of the conflict, but needs a better target article. The Kip 18:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

  There's Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis but it's not in the best state right now. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Helen Vendler

Article: Helen Vendler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Globe
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American literary critic. Needs some work.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Bibliography section needs more sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Terry Carter

Article: Terry Carter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American actor and filmmaker.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there is a major orange tag, Selected projects section needs to be rewritten with sources and Awards section needs sourcing. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

April 22

Portal:Current events/2024 April 22

April 22, 2024 (2024-04-22) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign The Russian Ministry of Defence claims control over the village of Novomykhailivka in Donetsk Oblast. (Reuters) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War The United Kingdom announces its largest ever military support package for the Ukrainian military, pledging 400 vehicles, including 162 MXT-MVs, 60 boats, 1,600 air defence missiles, 4 million rounds of firearm ammunition, and an additional £500 million in funding. (The Guardian) Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Russia strikes the Kharkiv TV Tower with a Kh-59 cruise missile, causing the upper half of the tower to collapse and disrupting the broadcasting signal in Kharkiv, Ukraine. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war Siege of Khan Yunis Israeli troops and tanks attack Khan Yunis in Gaza after abruptly withdrawing from the city earlier this month. (Reuters) Insurgency in the North Caucasus Two police officers are killed and another is injured during a mass shooting of a police squad in Karachay-Cherkessia, Russia. (Tass) Moro conflict Twelve Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters militants are killed and seven soldiers are wounded during a shootout in Datu Saudi Ampatuan, Maguindanao del Sur, Philippines. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Guangdong floods Four people are killed and ten are missing during floods caused by heavy rain in Guangdong Province, China. Around 110,000 people are evacuated. (BBC News) International relations China–Japan relations Controversies surrounding Yasukuni Shrine China objects to an offering that Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida made at Tokyo's Yasukuni Shrine on Sunday. (Reuters) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel The head of the Military Intelligence Directorate of Israel Aharon Haliva resigns for failing to prevent the Hamas offensive on Israel on October 7, 2023. (AP) 2024 Maldivian parliamentary election President Mohamed Muizzu's party, the People's National Congress, is declared the winner of the election. (Reuters) Science and technology NASA announces that it has received decipherable data from the Voyager 1 space probe for the first time in five months. (CNN)

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RD: Joel Breman

Article: Joel Breman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

NY Times obit published 22 April. Thriley (talk) 14:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the article is sufficiently sourced. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Voyager 1 contact resumed

Article: Voyager 1 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ NASA announces receiving decipherable data from Voyager 1 for the first time in five months. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Over five months, NASA resolves a failure in Voyager 1's flight data system and resumes receiving decipherable data from the probe.
Alternative blurb II: ​ After five months of attempts, NASA resolves a failure in Voyager 1's flight data system, and receives decipherable data from the space probe again.
News source(s): NASA JPL CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Article updated

After rearranging code from a defective Voyager 1 chip, NASA is finally getting back data from the furthest probe in the Solar System! Honestly, it's a little miracle that they managed to save the half-century old probe. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 08:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Significant, and a nice departure from our normal doom and gloom and elections. BilledMammal (talk) 08:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Just heard about this on radio news in Australia. An impressive feat. HiLo48 (talk) 08:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support Notable, and the article is of sufficiently good quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Per above, and of particular interest due to the ingenuity of humankind. Kcmastrpc (talk) 11:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support though I don't think the blurb is really sufficient. First off we don't need to say "NASA announces..." but thats minor, there's something to be said that they had been troubleshooting V1 for the last five months (over that great distance and with age of the computer) to resolve that. --Masem (t) 12:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Added altblurb, what do you think of it? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
    • I have simplified Alt1 down but that I think is more reasonable. --Masem (t) 12:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

      Great, thanks! Alt2 (my own attempt at simplifying) probably isn't needed then. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - well-written and In the News. Great find! Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support per above. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Interesting and great news! ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 15:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Always nice to see more science news pop up in ITN, especially in regards to one of the most ambitious space exploration programs in history. ArkHyena (talk) 17:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT1 per above. Science! The Kip 18:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 19:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Brian Tobin (tennis)

Article: Brian Tobin (tennis) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

President of the International Tennis Federation.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the article meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Cecil Williams

Article: Cecil Williams (pastor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KQED
Credits:

• Nominated by Funcrunch (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American pastor and civil rights activist. Funcrunch (talk) 02:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Weak Support. Williams' death has received very little coverage outside San Francisco; nevertheless he was a pretty relevant figure in the civil rights movement and I could see a case being made for this RD. Support I have just been informed that the above information is irrelevant to this discussion. Thank you. In that case, everything else looks good to me. Poxy4 (talk) 14:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Poxy4 Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. The only thing to discuss is if the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - article meets quality standards ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 16:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - reason is the same as above, it meets quality standards LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 21:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Lead needs at least a sentence or two more on his notability.—Bagumba (talk) 07:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: expanded as well as I could from article prose. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 09:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

April 21

Portal:Current events/2024 April 21

April 21, 2024 (2024-04-21) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israel–Hamas war Bombing of the Gaza Strip Twenty-two people are killed, including 18 children, in overnight Israeli strikes in Rafah in the Gaza Strip, according to local health officials. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Fox Hill Supercross race crash A car veers off the track during the international Fox Hill Supercross motor race in Diyatalawa, Sri Lanka, and crashes into a group of spectators, killing seven people and injuring 21 others. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 Ecuadorian constitutional referendum Ecuadorians vote in a referendum on proposed constitutional changes. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Maldivian parliamentary election Maldivians elect the members of the parliament. (The Hindu) 2024 North Kosovo referendum A referendum on whether to remove ethnic Albanian mayors from office in Serb-majority North Kosovo is boycotted by most Serbs, who demand that the mayors resign. (Reuters)

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RD: Jerome Rothenberg

Article: Jerome Rothenberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jacket2.org; Zeta Tijuana
Credits:

• Nominated by Trauma Novitiate (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

This poet, anthologist, translator and interpreter has been a fundamental American literary voice for 60+ years. His book Technicians of the Sacred is a classic. But this article’s RD status is not ready, and has been tagged since 2012. Note: this is listed under April 23 b/c that’s the earliest, credibly sourced date available in English confirming Rothenberg’s death (tho a source in Spanish was dated April 22, and social media reported it hours after his passing on April 21). Trauma Novitiate (talk) 04:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

2024 Sri Lankan Fox Hill Supercross race crash

Article: 2024 Fox Hill Supercross race crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A car crash in a motorsporting event in Sri Lanka leaves seven people dead. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Abishe (talk · give credit)

Article updated

It has been the news headline due to the significance of the return of the said motorsport event in Sri Lanka after five years. Abishe (talk) 10:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - article is fresh, and still needs work in terms of wikilinking, polishing etc. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 10:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Weak Oppose - this is worthy, however, the page still has a long way to go for polishing and wiki linking before it should be added LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 21:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - well cited and seems notable Abo Yemen✉ 14:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose – I've posted my concerns about WP:NPOV on the article's talk page. Schwede66 21:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Michael Cuscuna

Article: Michael Cuscuna (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WRTI
Credits:

• Nominated by Mach61 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Fairly short Mach61 02:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article do not have {{Infobox person}} and the awards section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 04:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

@PrinceofPunjab Both of those issues have been resolved Mach61 13:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support looks just about long enough to post, and everything looks sourced. Note that having an infobox is not an article or ITN requirement, as per MOS:INFOBOXUSE. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support - article is short but seems just long enough to post ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 17:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
• The article is short on biographical detail. The WRTI source has a lot of content that could make this a much better bio. Schwede66 21:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Terry A. Anderson

Article: Terry A. Anderson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ReutersThe New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Held hostage in Lebanon.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:10, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 01:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nomination. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose due to a large amount of unsourced text in the hostage in Lebanon section. And just a reminder that notability does not matter for RD's. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  As WP:ITNQUALITY notes, Articles should be well referenced; one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article, but any contentious statements must have a source, and having entire sections without any sources is unacceptable. Overall the article is well referenced. And I added several references to address one of them. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 17:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - I removed the cn-tagged paragraph after questioning its relevance to Anderson himself, so should be good to go now ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 17:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
• There are a few {cn} tags in the Post-captivity life section. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Can you please take a look now.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the new footnotes! --PFHLai (talk) 18:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 18:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Afghanistan–Pakistan floods

Article: 2024 Afghanistan–Pakistan floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 130 people died in floods in Afghanistan and Pakistan. (Post)
News source(s): NY Times, CNN, VOA, The Guardian, Al Jazeera, CBS, DW, Washington Post, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
• Created by Cuises123 (talk · give credit)

Ainty Painty (talk) 03:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Support in principal but the article needs a little bit of expansion. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Merge This is said to be the same weather system which caused the Gulf floods that we're blurbing. See Talk:2024_Persian_Gulf_floods#Merge_proposal. As an encyclopedia, we should be explaining the meteorology -- which may be a mesoscale convective system -- rather than just counting the cost. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per Andrew, with a combined blurb explaining the weather system. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per Andrew and a combined blurb. The AP (talk) 12:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment With articles (some of which I think we've blurbed previously) like 2023 Pakistan floods, 2023 Afghanistan floods, 2022 Pakistan floods, 2022 Afghanistan floods, 2021 Afghan floods, etc. it's hard to see how this is even notable, let alone blurb-worthy. Nfitz (talk) 19:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

  Its only notable because it is a continuation of the rain and flooding that hit the Middle East, hence while that one system should be a single article and covered that way. Regular seasonal flooding of that area that comes from normal storm patterns may be appropriate for ongoing once that season starts, but we shouldn't be posting regular annual weather aspects otherwise. Masem (t) 19:17, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Merge - As per @Andrew Davidson it should be merged into the existing 2024 Persian Gulf floods article.

CheetasOnMission (talk) 12:12, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose there's an ongoing merge discussion. If merged, then blurb should be updated, and if not merged, then this event on its own isn't ITN worthy (and the article is questionably notable on its own anyway). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

April 20

Portal:Current events/2024 April 20

April 20, 2024 (2024-04-20) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israel–Hamas war Israeli attacks in the West Bank during the Israel–Gaza war Fourteen Palestinians are killed in an Israeli attack in the West Bank. (Reuters) (Times of Israel) Russian invasion of Ukraine The Governor of Smolensk Oblast, Russia, says that a Ukrainian drone attack caused a fire at a fuel depot in Kardymovsky. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Bangui river disaster A river boat en route to a funeral capsizes in the Mpoko River in Bangui, Central African Republic, killing at least 58 people. (DW) International relations Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War, United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war The U.S. House of Representatives passes a series of bills that would provide $95 billion in military aid to countries including Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. (ABC News) Law and crime Israel–Hamas war protests Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States American college students plan demonstrations in solidarity with pro-Palestinian Columbia University protesters arrested in New York City earlier this week. (CNN) Mass shootings in the United States Two people are killed and six more are injured in a shooting at a block party in Memphis, Tennessee. (ABC News) Protests occur in Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain, against mass tourism in the Canary Islands which is allegedly increasing house prices for locals. (Reuters)

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(Posted) RD: Andrew Davis (conductor)

Article: Andrew Davis (conductor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheEmeraldBeyond (talk · give credit), Aza24 (talk · give credit) and Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Famous conductor Andrew🐉(talk) 12:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Andrew, thank you for nominating. Next time, please under the day of death, and yes for updated only when done (not yet).There's a lot about contracts, and little music, and refs missing for the recordings, also there must be more, no? He held chief positions in three continents! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  Now everything mentioned also has a source. I can't fix the note on the article talk to here, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. One cn tag, but that shouldn't keep this from getting posted. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  Now sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks good. Well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 19:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Lourdes Portillo

Article: Lourdes Portillo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): IndieWire, Los Angeles Times, Variety, Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:DBD:7A2C:458C:FE69 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by EclecticEnnui (talk · give credit) and Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Mexican filmmaker and activist. 240F:7A:6253:1:DBD:7A2C:458C:FE69 (talk) 07:10, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Needs some more citation, filmography is unsourced, there's a lot of unsourced statement in the career section. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 07:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Howie Schwab

Article: Howie Schwab (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:DBD:7A2C:458C:FE69 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240F:7A:6253:1:DBD:7A2C:458C:FE69 (talk) 07:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose We don't post stubs. Schwede66 00:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
• With merely 208 words of prose, this stubby wikibio needs an expansion to qualify. --PFHLai (talk) 03:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
• It's at 1960 B (323 words).—Bagumba (talk) 07:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• It's on the short side but ok. Once the two citation needed tags are gone, I'd say it's good enough to post. Schwede66 21:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Roman Gabriel

Article: Roman Gabriel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs a lot of work. Natg 19 (talk) 01:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11: can you work on this? Natg 19 (talk) 01:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

You know, I was just thinking about doing that. I probably should be able to do it soon. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Gediminas Kirkilas

Article: Gediminas Kirkilas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs some work. Natg 19 (talk) 01:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the article needs so much expansion. There are just 3 lines covering his premiership. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Kunwar Sarvesh Kumar Singh

Article: Kunwar Sarvesh Kumar Singh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs some work. Natg 19 (talk) 01:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the article needs more sourcing. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

April 19

Portal:Current events/2024 April 19

April 19, 2024 (2024-04-19) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2024 Iran–Israel conflict 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran Missiles are launched by the Israel Defense Forces towards Isfahan, Iran. Locations in Iraq and Syria are also attacked by Israel. (Al Jazeera) (Times of Israel) (The Washington Post) The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade tells its citizens to leave Israel, citing a high threat of military reprisals and terrorist attacks. (Times of Israel) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Russian missile strikes kill seven civilians in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, including five in Synelnykove and two in Dnipro, with several others critically injured. (BBC News) A Russian Air Force Tupolev Tu-22M3 aircraft is shot down in Russian airspace over Stavropol Krai after launching missiles at targets in Ukraine. (BBC News) An Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces command post at the Kalsu military base was hit by an explosion resulting from an air strike, killing one fighter and wounding six others. Security sources say it is not known who was responsible, and Israel and the United States both deny involvement. (Reuters) (CNN) Business and economy American car manufacturer Tesla, Inc. recalls thousands of Cybertrucks due to "safety concerns" involving the truck's accelerator pedals. (BBC News) International relations Niger–United States relations The United States agrees to withdraw American troops from Niger. (The Washington Post) Law and crime Self-immolation of Maxwell Azzarello A man fatally sets himself on fire near the New York City courthouse where former President Donald Trump is currently on trial. (The New York Times) Politics and elections 2024 Indian general election Indians begin voting to elect members to the 18th Lok Sabha. There are 969 million people eligible to vote, and voting will continue until June in seven phases. (AP)

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RD: Bill Tobin (American football)

Article: Bill Tobin (American football) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

NFL executive.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:08, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait there is no obvious issue here, but the career section needs some expansion and early life section could use a bit more referencing. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 12:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose No mention of playing career in body, just unsourced details in lead and infobox, even if he is most notable as executive. Here's a source for a sentence or two,[5] which should be sufficient.—Bagumba (talk) 07:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Leighton James

Article: Leighton James (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 0xC0000005 (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Egghead06 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Wales footballer. Lead needs expansionPharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the article is in a good shape. Only problem is that the last two lines of Club career section needs sourcing. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 12:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• Three {cn} tags remaining. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 03:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Daniel Dennett

Article: Daniel Dennett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American philosopher.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Support Article looks good to me - went to add it here myself and got edit-conflicted. --Opus 113 (talk) 20:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Support there is one cn tag but that should not hold this article from getting posted. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 12:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• Too many unreferenced paragraphs. Stephen 05:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  At his point, it's two unsourced sentences tagged. —Bagumba (talk) 06:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

  I've tagged a lot more unreferenced stuff. And the citation style where his works are referred to in the prose, with the citation just giving page numbers, is also not up to scratch. Schwede66 20:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Francis Omondi Ogolla

Article: Francis Omondi Ogolla (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ainty Painty (talk) 16:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there is one cn tag and the last line of death section is not sourced. It would be better if reactions section is merged with the death one and replace a tweet source with a better one. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 12:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing : 2024 United States presidential election

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Article: 2024 United States presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chinese coverage, British coverage,Indian coverage, African coverage, Qatari coverage
Credits:

• Nominated by lukt64 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Alright. There is a large scale interest in this election, not even just in the US but also in European countries and India. Elections have been posted to ongoing before and I believe this would be beneficial to Wikipedia. Lukt64 (talk)

Oppose - Unlike India, the election isn't "ongoing", a campaign that's still going to last more than half a year is. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. The general election is already WP:ITNR and I don't see how any other events would be ITN worthy (aside from a theoretical Trump conviction, which wouldn't really be covered by the election article anyway). Estreyeria (talk) 13:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - In India, the voting stages have begun. In a UK election, parliament would be dissolved a set time before the election. The US election just isn't 'ongoing' in either of these senses. It's many months away, and the party conferences haven't even happened. The US electoral process is absurdly protracted, but let's not get way ahead of ourselves. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose seriously no. There is no argument to support this nomination. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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(Closed) 2024 Indian general election (ongoing)

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Article: 2024 Indian general election (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, The Times of India, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This is world’s biggest election in the world's most populous country. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose we don't generally post elections onto ongoing. Also, there's about 1 election a week, so it's unlikely that there will be significant updates every 1-2 days, which is a requirement for ongoing. The article itself has no prose updates to even say election started. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Joseph.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - We have posted elections into ongoing before - For example we put the 2020 U.S. elections in ongoing, mainly due to the long vote count that took place. India is the most populous country in the world, nearly 1 Billion people are eligible to vote. The election is massively in the news, its organisation itself being notable as this is the largest democratic vote held in human history. Absolutely deserves to be ongoing for the duration of it. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Only problem is that ongoing is massively clogged at the moment. My personal opinion is to take off Myanmar and Sudan, while merging the Red Sea Crisis into a 'Spillover' item. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

That's not nearly the only problem. This is a contentious topic which will tend to attract campaigners seeking to influence the outcome. DYK embargoes election coverage for 30 days ahead of the poll -- see WP:DYKELECT. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

That's DYK, not ITN. Even then, no election candidates are in this item. How would this rule apply here? We've posted many contentious topics that were even more controversial than this PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Elections are ongoing in the UK – I'm getting leaflets and canvassing currently. And the US has its presidential election and whatever else. Politics is endlessly ongoing everywhere, it seems. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Andrew I think it is wrong to compare these elections with UK or US elections. Next United Kingdom general election have no fixed date in sight, we do not know whether the voting will take place next month or the next year. 2024 United States presidential election will take place on November 5th. I put this up for nomination today because official voting have started from today even though the campaign for these have been going on from the start of the year. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 09:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Voting hasn't begun in the UK yet. India is such a massive and populous country that it takes a month for everyone in the country to vote. Here's an interesting video about it . 1/8th of the world is voting in this election, nuts PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  That video is four years old because this protracted process is not new; it was much the same last time. ITN posted the results at the end in the usual way. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  The FIFA World Cup has happened before even more regularly, yet we put it in ongoing. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  FIFA is explicitly stated for ongoing and outcome blurb entries in WP:ITN/R, and it was perhaps by its entry in ITN/R that allowed it to be posted as ongoing despite what could had been a no consensus close in the last discussion. Going by ITN/R, only the election results will be posted. If you have issues with FIFA getting an ongoing entry, it can be discussed on the talk page. – robertsky (talk) 14:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  With FIFA, there's ongoing results as matches are played and teams eliminated. So there is "result" news happening every week FIFA is going. With elections, the "result" news is typically when the election is over and reported, so it is normally just a singular blurb. Masem (t) 15:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Andrew, that's disingenuous. The current UK election period is for local elections and one single parliamentary by-election. The Indian election is a general election. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

We have a general election coming too. That has had an article for over four years and it has averaged more than one edit every day throughout that period. It's in the news often and its readership is comparable with the South Korean election that we're currently blurbing. Such politics is ongoing all the time here. It might be nice to live a country which doesn't have party politics. But then there's the weather per our current lead blurb... Andrew🐉(talk) 15:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment It should be noted that this is not the election campaign, but the election itself that is taking place over several months, unlike in places like the US. Also, the results progressively coming from each phase of the election mean we might have significant updates every few days. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the world's largest democracy is holding a election that is biggest in the human history and it is regularly getting large number of page views. LiamKorda 10:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

This isn't what ongoing is for. When the election results are announced, they'll certainly be notable enough for a blurb, but there are unlikely to be a sufficiently high number of updates, as per Joseph. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Putting any election into ongoing is a bad use of it. If we put India's, we clearly have to put the US's because of how important this one is, and that starts a slipperly slope for all election seasons. We will absolutely post the results (assuming the article is good). To add that adding the unknown factors in the 2020 US election after election day into ongoing made sense, since at that point the news cycle was not about campaigning any more but all the legal challenges to the vote. Should the Indian election turn that way after the campaigning is over, leaving a major question of who won, then that might also be worth ongoing. But in the pre-voting period, the bulk of the news is all about campaigns, and that's something we shouldn't give attention to at ITN. --Masem (t) 12:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  No, we're not in the pre-voting period. The vote started today, and lasts a whole month. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, it is different to other countries as the voting is over a longer period of time (not one day like most other country elections, and a few days for EU elections). Nevertheless, the article doesn't meet the criteria of WP:ONGOING: In general, articles are not posted to ongoing merely because they are related to events that are still happening. In order to be posted to ongoing, the article needs to be regularly updated with new, pertinent information. There are no recent regular updates on this article at present, and these regular updates would need to be maintained throughout the election period to keep it on ongoing if posted. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  When will the votes be tallied? During the voting period or after its over? If they aren't being tallied over this month, then this is still in the campaigning phase, and we can wait to post the results. — Masem (t) 15:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose A country having general elections in most cases isn't newsworthy unless the country is new to the democratic process, or returning from an undemocractic one (even then, this would have been events separate from the elections). India having month-long elections is a procedural one designed for its circumstances. Is it noteworthy, yes, news worthy? No. However, if there is/are (touch wood) major disruptions to the election process, we can consider them for blurb(s). Also to note that the 2019 elections generated... one nomination. – robertsky (talk) 15:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose As per the election schedule section of the article, voting will be taking place with around one week breaks, meaning there will not be enough updates for this to go in ongoing. Gödel2200 (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Even though India is the biggest democracy, we only post the results of the election TheAstorPastor (talk) 16:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. Regardless of the amount of people voting in this election, I don't think we should post anything about it until the winner of the election is announced (unless a major disruption occurs, per above, but we will cross that bridge if we ever come to it). Moncoposig (talk) 21:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Israeli retaliation (ongoing)

Article: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by User:37.252.95.10 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Still breaking, but MSM is both reporting and mentioning israel and iran. You may remove oil prices, but i just screenshotted it on my phone and is almost 3% up. User:37.252.95.10

• Support but needs its own separate article when official info is ready. 142.117.133.114 (talk) 02:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

We should try to wait until we have confirmation what actually happened, beyond reports of explosions. That said, if we're going to have this tit-for-tat conflict here, that's probably where one page summarizing these events as a whole are needed, not individual articles for each attack. (This is a long-standing NOTNEWS problem). Masem (t) 02:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Like olympics or other events, could be ongoing. Would need a chronology article. Do you thinking ongoing is better than a bump? There is going to be a counter from iran too. (speculative on my end, i admit, but chronology still adds up since its all inside a week).37.252.95.10 (talk) 02:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Assuming we get a decent article covering the 2024 Israeli - Iranian Crisis, I'd probably support this as an ongoing item. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

the original article doesn't even consolidate Iranian seizure of the MSC Aries. Clearly they are related.37.252.95.10 (talk) 03:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Assuming that the reports are that this was a single strike at a site near an Iranian nuclear facility, this is absolutely better suited for an ongoing item on the conflict than an individual article. — Masem (t) 03:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I hear (not substantiated yet) there was a strike on some outpost in Syria and something in Iraq. Probs more reason for ongoing. If anyone wants to create that page.37.252.95.10 (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

the newsbox above has this 2024 Iran–Israel conflict. Maybe ill convert this to an ongoing thing.37.252.95.10 (talk) 04:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

done.37.252.95.10 (talk) 04:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Update the existing blurb about the previous strikes. When that scrolls off, we can consider Ongoing if the tit for tat is continuing. In any case, we need more clarity and confirmation as "Officials are saying there has been no attack...". Andrew🐉(talk) 08:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Update and put it in Ongoing when that rolls off. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Ongoing—The situation is evolving dramatically by the day, and has two of the most powerful countries in the Middle East at the brink of all-out war. If any conflict merits an Ongoing, it's this one. Kurtis ^(talk) 10:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge with Red Sea into Spillover - Very notable event, but would be best to merge with the Red Sea Crisis item into one 'spillover' of the Hamas War. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  • The conflict in the Red Sea is still ongoing as long as it is having an impact on shipping and economic activities. If the ships have started to use the channel normally then the spillover link can be removed. This conflict is only more notable than the Yemen conflict because of the disruption to shipping.

  Shironese (talk) 14:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Waiting until the entire conflict ends to take the item off is an arbitrary metric, conflicts often last for decades without any major events. Best to merge PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The events of this conflict can be adequately covered in ongoing by either the Spillover of the Israel-Hamas war article, or the Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (12 January 2024 – present) article, one if which (preferably the latter, IMO) seems to have consensus to replace the Red Sea crisis item in ongoing with. Gödel2200 (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, if we're going to post it then let's post it independently, it is not a part of red sea crisis or any other ongoing news, it's a separate event with loose connection to other ongoing wars. 3000MAX (talk) 17:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - both sides have said it's over. The pundits seem to agree. That seems to be the opposite of ongoing to me. And is the final volley of 3 missiles even notable? If it ever happened - Iran is saying it didn't even happen! How many different countries has Iran fired missiles at recently ... Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Isreal ... did I miss any? Nfitz (talk) 23:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  That's true. If there's any further engagement between the two countries then we can re-review, but the situation seems to have cooled down PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - as Nfitz said, both sides said it's over. Fileyfood500 (talk) 17:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as it is spill over from a conflict already listed as ongoing. Yakikaki (talk) 20:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - As Chamberlain might say, we missed the bus. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 12:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

April 18

Portal:Current events/2024 April 18

April 18, 2024 (2024-04-18) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Foreign involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Germany arrests two German-Russian nationals for an alleged military sabotage plot on behalf of Russia to undermine military support for Ukraine. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents A Kenya Air Force Bell UH-1H Huey II crashes in Elgeyo-Marakwet County, Kenya, killing ten people, including Chief of Defence Forces Francis Omondi Ogolla. President William Ruto declares three days of national mourning. (BBC News) International relations Palestine and the United Nations, Enlargement of the United Nations The United States vetoes a UN Security Council resolution supporting the State of Palestine joining the United Nations. The vote was 12 in favor, the United States opposed, and two abstentions, from the United Kingdom and Switzerland. (AP) Sports In ice hockey, the National Hockey League board approves the relocation of the hockey assets of the Arizona Coyotes to Salt Lake City, Utah. The currently unnamed expansion team will play their home games at the Delta Center, while the Coyotes franchise will be deactivated pending the construction of a new arena in the Phoenix metropolitan area. (Sportsnet) (AP)

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Vasuki indicus (Reviewers needed)

Article: Vasuki indicus (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Vasuki indicus, possibly the largest known snake, is formally described. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Vasuki indicus, possibly the largest known snake at 10.9–15.2 metres (36–50 feet) long, is formally described.
News source(s): Scientific Reports, AP News, CNN, CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by Blaylockjam10 (talk · give credit)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Blaylockjam10 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Support although, unlike Ichthyotitan, it should be noted that the length estimates overlap heavily with Titanoboa, with only the higher estimates making it the largest. Either way, this really seems to be the giant fossil season and I'm all for it! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 08:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

The uncertainty is why I wrote possibly in the blurb. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Mandisa

Article: Mandisa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox News
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American gospel and contemporary Christian recording artist.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there are several paragraphs ending without a reference, multiple cn tags and the Awards section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the article subject's death is notable and newsworthy as it has been covered by news sources worldwide. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 14:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. This vote doesn't take that into account in any way. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose article quality is not good enough. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Dickey Betts

Article: Dickey Betts (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:A1DE:A47F:63DC:BD77 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Guitarist for The Allman Brothers Band. 240F:7A:6253:1:A1DE:A47F:63DC:BD77 (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there is an orange tag and several cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 17:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Croatian parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Croatian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The HDZ-led coalition wins a plurality of votes in the parliamentary election in Croatia but fall well short of a parliamentary majority. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: As always with these elections it'll be now coalition negotiation time, but the main news is HDZ won but maybe not as by much as they would like. A slightly bigger aftermath and commentary on the results would be nice, but it's not a bad article at all. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support National general elections are ITN/R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

  It is marked as ITN/R, so it is presumed notable, it's better to focus on whether the article is up to quality. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support as it is under ITN/R LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 12:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose There is virtually no prose in the "results" and "aftermath" sections. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Chaotic Enby: how about now, since both have been expanded? Abcmaxx (talk) 20:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Much better, count me as support then! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Admin comment I'm willing to post this once meaningful prose has been added to the "Results" section. Please ping me when it's done. Schwede66 19:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• @Schwede66: I have expanded it significantly, although it's difficult not to overlap with the aftermath section. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

• Cool. I’ll be out for the next 6 or 8 hours. If another admin wants to have a look in the meantime, that will be good as well. Schwede66 21:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted and apologies for the delay in getting onto it. Schwede66 20:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

April 17

Portal:Current events/2024 April 17

April 17, 2024 (2024-04-17) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine April 2024 Chernihiv missile strike At least 18 people are killed and 60 others are injured in a Russian missile strike which damaged an eight-storey building in a densely populated area of Chernihiv. (BBC News) (Reuters) War in Sudan Taqaddum leader and former Prime Minister of Sudan Abdalla Hamdok meets with French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris, France. (Dabanga Sudan) Business and economy Vietnam announces a $24 billion rescue for the Sai Gon Joint Stock Commercial Bank, which is currently involved in a fraud case. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Persian Gulf floods The United Arab Emirates records its heaviest rainfall in 75 years, with significant flooding reported in Dubai. At least 20 people are killed by flooding in Oman and Ras Al Khaimah. (The Guardian) (Reuters) Hundreds of people are evacuated after the Ruang volcano erupts in North Sulawesi, Indonesia. (Reuters) International relations Sanctions during the Venezuelan crisis The Biden administration announces that it will reimpose oil sanctions on Venezuela. (The Washington Post) Law and crime Switzerland's Federal Assembly votes to ban public displays of the Nazi swastika. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Croatian parliamentary election Voters in Croatia elect the members of the Sabor. The ruling Croatian Democratic Union and its coalition win the most seats, but fail to obtain a majority. (Reuters) 2024 Solomon Islands general election Voters in Solomon Islands elect a new National Parliament. (The Guardian) Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas The United States Senate votes to dismiss both impeachment articles against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, by a vote of 51–48 on the first article and 51–49 on the second. (Reuters) (CNN) Science and technology Scientists announce that they have identified fossil remains of the Ichthyotitan, the largest marine reptile currently known, in the Westbury Formation in England. (NOS) Sports In basketball, the NBA announces that it has banned Jontay Porter, a two-way player under contract to the Toronto Raptors and their G League affiliate Raptors 905, for multiple major violations of the league's gambling policy. (NBA) (ESPN)

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(Posted) Ichthyotitan

Article: Ichthyotitan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ichthyotitan (pictured), the largest marine reptile ever known, is formally described. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ichthyotitan (pictured), the largest marine reptile ever known, measuring around 25 metres (82 ft) long, is formally described.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Ichthyotitan (pictured), possibly the largest marine reptile ever known at around 25 metres (82 ft) long, is formally described.
News source(s): Peer-reviewed article in PLoS One The Guardian CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)
• Created by Roadrunnerfromhell (talk · give credit)
• Updated by SlvrHwk (talk · give credit) and Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Article updated

What about a scientific discovery, to change a bit from the wars, politics and disasters? A new species of ichthyosaur of absolutely gigantic proportions, nearly as big as a blue whale and possibly still growing at the time of death. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 08:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support – Hell yeah, back to our encyclopedia roots. However, there is a lot of insecurity about whether or not it actually would be the longest ever. I don't think we can make such a certain claim in our lede. The article could use some expansion too I think. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Down to help with the expansion part! Just added an altblurb for the "possibly" thing. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 08:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  I expanded the article quite a lot, it should be fine now. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

  Oh beautiful work! ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:16, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose 1. Paleontology is a science where facts (especially animal size) are changing all the time with new discoveries and new analysis from other researcher. 2. It's only partial skeleton (heck, there is only jawbones), scientist speculate all the time so it's not really newsworthy Afif Brika1 (talk) 10:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  While the size was given with a margin of error, it's not fair to say that it is only speculation—all of science changes in light of new evidence, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have scientific news on ITN. The bones found are very much larger than those of Shastasaurus sikanniensis, its cousin and predecessor as record-holder. Plus, the news is the discovery (being formally published), not just scientists making a new length estimate. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 11:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  I agree with Chaotic Enby. This is more than just a theory or hypothesis, this a scientific discovery backed by evidence. Unless someone proves otherwise, then these are the current set of facts. The earth was verifiably flat until it was proven it definitely was not and the sun revolved round it, until it was proven it was the other way round etc. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

  What an utterly bizarre comment. Black Kite (talk) 18:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Support scientific discoveries like these should be posted. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - already a B-class article and seems notable Abo Yemen✉ 14:37, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Support Article is fine. This is the sort of thing we should be featuring. Black Kite (talk) 18:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Peer-reviewed finding covered in news, and article looks fine. --Masem (t) 19:35, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Fine article, important discovery. Yakikaki (talk) 19:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 05:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  You beat me to it by a few minutes. :-) Schwede66 05:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  And User:Spencer protected the picture, so he was on the ball too! Stephen 05:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting support Just wanted to say I was very happy when I went to Wikipedia today and saw this on the main page. I hope we start posting things like this more often, ITN has the potential to be so much more than just a bullet-point list of horrible tragedies. Glad to see many others feel the same way. Great idea nominating this & many thanks to the editors worked on the article!  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 23:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks a lot! I'll try to nominate and write more of these if I find about them! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting support Agreeing with Vanilla Wizard. Good to see some none-tragic news hitting the headlines at Wikipedia. ITN could benefit from more stories like this getting blurbed (scientific achievements, etc.) --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sue Chew

Article: Sue Chew (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/04/18/longest-serving-democrat-in-idaho-legislature-dies-from-pancreatic-cancer/
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American politician, Member of the Idaho House of Representatives. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there is no information about her political career and otherwise have very little prose. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose The article is practically a stub. Schwede66 19:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Austin Murphy

Article: Austin Murphy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Observer-Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former U.S. representative from Pennsylvania. The article needs work but the linked news article reporting his death has a lot of details which can be added. Curbon7 (talk) 22:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article needs some ref work and there's little information about his political career, especially his tenure his congress (besides the extensive info about scandals). Nothing about committee assigns or anything other besides his scandals are mentioned. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose I've placed three citation needed tags. Schwede66 19:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Persian Gulf floods

Article: 2024 Persian Gulf floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods in the Gulf states killed 18 people in Oman, while the United Arab Emirates experienced its heaviest rainfall in 75 years. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Flooding in the Gulf states leaves 20 people dead.
News source(s): NY Times, Al Jazeera, Reuters, The Guardian, Khaleej Times, BBC,
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
• Created by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)

Ainty Painty (talk) 07:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Support The event is notable and the article seems to be of sufficiently good quality and sourcing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle. 'Heavy rainfall in the Gulf states' had been an excellent example of an oxymoron before this happened.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support. 10 inches of rain poured in 24 hours in parts of the UAE, highest since Emirati climate records began in 1949! Unprecedented in a normally arid part of the world. Droodkin (talk) 10:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle but the article is currently a bit small and needs to be expanded. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle, oppose on quality seeding has already been dismissed as the cause, this was just a very unusual storm pattern that caused flooding. The BG section of the article doesn't mention the weather system at all and focuses too much on the seeding part. Masem (t) 15:07, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, unique meteorological event with a major impact. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability Abo Yemen✉ 18:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support a rare and notable weather event --Μιχαήλ Δεληγιάννης (talk) 22:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, oppose on quality some places got 2-3 times their annual rainfall in a matter of hours, and the 2nd largest airport in the world was closed. However, article is orange tagged, which needs fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Article looks quite a bit better now, so changing vote to support. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

  Article still fails to explain the fundamental weather system that caused the rainfall and focuses too much if seeding and long term climate change. Our weather disaster articles nearly always dip into details about the weather systems that lead to these disasters. Masem (t) 18:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 02:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Blurb is wrong, there have been floodings in yemen too (which is not a gulf state) and a person died there. Maybe change it to the statesof Arabian peninsula or something close to that Abo Yemen✉ 08:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Iran is not in the Arabian peninsula though, and the floods do not cover the whole Middle East either. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Arabian Peninsula != Middle east

  Just change it to "the states of the Arabian Peninsula and Iran" Abo Yemen✉ 15:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  • @Stephen: The blurb is incorrect. Currently, the blurb states “Flooding in the Arab Gulf states leaves at least twenty-four people dead.” This is factually incorrect as Iran has had eight casualties and is not one of the Arab states of the Persian Gulf. The blurb should instead state “Flooding in the Persian Gulf leaves at least thirty-two people dead.” --Bijanii (talk) 23:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
    • With the fatality in Yemen now, it could also state “Flooding in the Persian Gulf and Arabian Peninsula leaves more than thirty people dead.” The current blurb - “Flooding in the Arab Gulf states leaves more than thirty people dead.” - is still incorrect and needs to be changed. --Bijanii (talk) 18:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Chernihiv missile attack

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: April 2024 Chernihiv missile strike (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A missile attack kills 17 people in Chernihiv, Ukraine, while more than 60 people are injured. (Post)
News source(s): BBC Al Jazeera Reuters The Guardian Washington Post ABC News Kyiv Independent NY Times
Credits:

• Created and nominated by NYMan6 (talk · give credit)

NYMan6 (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose While unfortunate, the article is a stub and is seen as an event part of the Russo-Ukraine. Since the war itself and it's timeline (where it already lists this event) are already nominated on ITN, there's no need for the blurb. - MateoFrayo (talk) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose covered by ongoing Ukraine topic. Masem (t) 16:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose ongoing Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, covered by ongoing. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose It is already covered --Μιχαήλ Δεληγιάννης (talk) 22:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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